I was a little harsh on Rogzilla - hopefully we have patched things up now.
5 hours ago
Friday, May 29, 2009
Thursday, May 28, 2009
The dark side....
So I woke up this morning to find this image released onto the interweb:
This seems to be an image of the combined form of Optimus Prime and Jetfire, thus confirming something that I was really hoping would not be in the movie.
It's not that I mind this visually, it's just that the concept is a little beyond me. And yes, I'm aware it's an element that was taken from some branch of the franchise.
I'm also aware that it looks a little fucking silly.
So I started to think, and I realized that there are several things in the movie that I'm not exactly thrilled about seeing.
THE PRETENDER
This has remained my absolute #1 problem with the movie, and I can't imagine there is anything that will change my mind. A robot who wears a "human suit"? And DOESN'T TRANSFORM? I don't care about "more than meets the eye!" and "robots is disguise!" I'm sure there is a rationalization for putting it in the story. But is there one for using this over the many many many other characters available?
THE TWINS
I have warmed to these 2, but only slightly. I get why they are in the movie, and I can live with their personalities. But I just do not get the head designs. They insult me as a designer. I hope the Johnny 5 computer that designed them is the one that melted.
ROGZILLA
Not getting to see the movie with ROGZILLA, who will be out there somewhere without my guidance and thinking that the Transformers were created by a combination of artistic sentient computers and pixie dust magic.
GIRL ROBOTS
So apparently there are 3 female robots who may or may not combine into one big amazonian female robot. Normally I am a fan of any situation that gets 3 females together, but I've never understood the need for women Transformers. I know there's a logic behind it, but the robot designs that I've seen from footage look like ass.
SOUNDWAVE
It's not him being in the movie that bothers me, it's the design he's been given. And the fact that I don't think he even comes to Earth, or even does that much in the movie at all. There are few characters in the franchise that could be considered iconic, and Soundwave is one of them. Hopefully he is handled properly.
THE END
The movie ending will blow ass, because it's going to be another 3 years before the next movie comes out!
This seems to be an image of the combined form of Optimus Prime and Jetfire, thus confirming something that I was really hoping would not be in the movie.
It's not that I mind this visually, it's just that the concept is a little beyond me. And yes, I'm aware it's an element that was taken from some branch of the franchise.
I'm also aware that it looks a little fucking silly.
So I started to think, and I realized that there are several things in the movie that I'm not exactly thrilled about seeing.
THE PRETENDER
This has remained my absolute #1 problem with the movie, and I can't imagine there is anything that will change my mind. A robot who wears a "human suit"? And DOESN'T TRANSFORM? I don't care about "more than meets the eye!" and "robots is disguise!" I'm sure there is a rationalization for putting it in the story. But is there one for using this over the many many many other characters available?
THE TWINS
I have warmed to these 2, but only slightly. I get why they are in the movie, and I can live with their personalities. But I just do not get the head designs. They insult me as a designer. I hope the Johnny 5 computer that designed them is the one that melted.
ROGZILLA
Not getting to see the movie with ROGZILLA, who will be out there somewhere without my guidance and thinking that the Transformers were created by a combination of artistic sentient computers and pixie dust magic.
GIRL ROBOTS
So apparently there are 3 female robots who may or may not combine into one big amazonian female robot. Normally I am a fan of any situation that gets 3 females together, but I've never understood the need for women Transformers. I know there's a logic behind it, but the robot designs that I've seen from footage look like ass.
SOUNDWAVE
It's not him being in the movie that bothers me, it's the design he's been given. And the fact that I don't think he even comes to Earth, or even does that much in the movie at all. There are few characters in the franchise that could be considered iconic, and Soundwave is one of them. Hopefully he is handled properly.
THE END
The movie ending will blow ass, because it's going to be another 3 years before the next movie comes out!
Just a quick rant....
From ROGZILLA on the tfw2005.com boards. This was a discussion about what actually constitutes a "CGI" image. My stance on the matter is this: artist input + computer output = CGI image. Be it 2D or 3D, digital images are the result of a computer following a person's instructions. In the case of a 2D drawing, the computer is manipulating pixels based on the input of the person. The computer is NOT CREATING anything - it is changing the appearance of pixels to represent the intended image. In the case of 3D, the computer is NOT CREATING anything - it is RENDERING what is already there... that which was set up by the person.
The final product is a COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGE - generated by a computer, but CREATED BY A PERSON.
I have bolded the more inane parts....
"No, the analogy does work. It is so freaking brilliant, I wish I thought of it myself! I don't understand how you don't get it!
I set up the statue, I set up the lighting, I get the environment just right. Then I bring in an artist (the computer software) and then tell it to create an image based on what I set up. Did I generate the image? No, the artist, or in this case, the computer did. I just set the peices in motion.
Also, to your first part...um...yes, pixels ARE manipulated by human hands...that is how digital painting actually works. I mean, we don't physically TOUCH a pixel...well, unless we use a Wacom Cintique then maybe you are. But the artist is DIRECTLY altering the image. The artist is doing the rendering.
By your understanding, oil painting should be could OGI. Because we don't actually make the image, the paint does. Sure, we use it, we tell it what to do, we can manipulate it within the confines of certain restrictions and freedoms, but the paint is what makes the image.
In digital painting, the computer is the TOOL. In CGI, the computer does the WORK.
TOOL
WORK
TOOL
WORK
A computer doesn't melt when making a digital painting. It DID when rendering Devestator. Why? Cause it is doing the work! I can't explain it any simpler than that. Sorry man, I tried to see your perspective but at the end of the day, you are wrong.
Also, to avoid any confusion, I am ALSO not saying that the people who create CGI are not artists and do not deserve credit for the work they do. Many do incredible work and deserve all the credit but even they would admit that the final image that you see on the screen is created by the computer. Created BY the computer, not created WITH the computer."
So just to clarify, ROGZILLA is saying that computers are actually artists, and that all the kickass Transformers we will see in Revenge of the Fallen were created BY computers, not WITH computers. Let me repeat that: up to the point where the sequences were rendered, no computers were used in the design or creation of the Transformers.
Also, people can physically touch pixels.
I think in every situation, ROGZILLA is the tool.
The final product is a COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGE - generated by a computer, but CREATED BY A PERSON.
I have bolded the more inane parts....
"No, the analogy does work. It is so freaking brilliant, I wish I thought of it myself! I don't understand how you don't get it!
I set up the statue, I set up the lighting, I get the environment just right. Then I bring in an artist (the computer software) and then tell it to create an image based on what I set up. Did I generate the image? No, the artist, or in this case, the computer did. I just set the peices in motion.
Also, to your first part...um...yes, pixels ARE manipulated by human hands...that is how digital painting actually works. I mean, we don't physically TOUCH a pixel...well, unless we use a Wacom Cintique then maybe you are. But the artist is DIRECTLY altering the image. The artist is doing the rendering.
By your understanding, oil painting should be could OGI. Because we don't actually make the image, the paint does. Sure, we use it, we tell it what to do, we can manipulate it within the confines of certain restrictions and freedoms, but the paint is what makes the image.
In digital painting, the computer is the TOOL. In CGI, the computer does the WORK.
TOOL
WORK
TOOL
WORK
A computer doesn't melt when making a digital painting. It DID when rendering Devestator. Why? Cause it is doing the work! I can't explain it any simpler than that. Sorry man, I tried to see your perspective but at the end of the day, you are wrong.
Also, to avoid any confusion, I am ALSO not saying that the people who create CGI are not artists and do not deserve credit for the work they do. Many do incredible work and deserve all the credit but even they would admit that the final image that you see on the screen is created by the computer. Created BY the computer, not created WITH the computer."
So just to clarify, ROGZILLA is saying that computers are actually artists, and that all the kickass Transformers we will see in Revenge of the Fallen were created BY computers, not WITH computers. Let me repeat that: up to the point where the sequences were rendered, no computers were used in the design or creation of the Transformers.
Also, people can physically touch pixels.
I think in every situation, ROGZILLA is the tool.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
LOLDAMN.
Here is a shot from the tie-in TF2 video game.
If there is anything remotely similar to this shot in the movie, I will have no choice but to assault the person next to me out of pure glee.
If there is anything remotely similar to this shot in the movie, I will have no choice but to assault the person next to me out of pure glee.
Sunday, May 24, 2009
One month to go!
The countdown begins, there's only one month left before "Revenge of the Fallen" opens. I'll be updating this far more regularly in the next month.
In honor of there being just one month to go, here is a video I cut together using most of the footage we've seen so far from the movie, and the "New Divide" soundtrack song. Enjoy!
In honor of there being just one month to go, here is a video I cut together using most of the footage we've seen so far from the movie, and the "New Divide" soundtrack song. Enjoy!
Friday, May 1, 2009
28 so far by my count.
Well, we've seen the ShoWest footage and now this new third trailer. It's definitely looking as though lack of robots is not going to be a problem in this movie. I actually wondered how many we've seen now, and since I have no life I put this list together. I realize that there are issues with some of the names and the Constructicon count - I think there are 7 of them, and I think the one that was underwater is the same one Bumblebee was fighting. "Scalpel" is a dumb name, "The Doctor" sounds much creepier so I'm going with that. Same for "Demolisher" - does that fucker look like he's scavenging for anything? I also didn't include the 3rd "Sister" here just because I didn't get a clear shot, plus we don't even know her name. So by my count, there's that 3rd sister, Soundwave, Jolt, 2 more Constructicons, and the lame-ass Pretender yet be seen, which pushes the count well past 30.
It's kinda cool to see all these in 1 spot. Enjoy.
It's kinda cool to see all these in 1 spot. Enjoy.
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